DIVERSIONS SEEN THROUGH OTHER PEOPLE'S VISORS!

The general Seca II forum. XJ600 centric but all motorbikes welcome!
Post Reply
User avatar
sleekitwan
Lookin' Around
Lookin' Around
Posts: 27
Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2014 5:01 am
Region or State: yorkshire
Motorcycles Owned Currently: y2k Diversion 600 Naked
Location: God's own country!

Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:31 pm

Having just renewed 'Rosie's' insurance, I saw there was an e-zine the insurer did. After patrolling around a bit, I noticed they did a section of the good the bad and the ugly - you know what's coming.

So this guy writes up every week on what's caught his eye in the fleabay 'for sale' ads, and in the 600 bracket, there's the ZZR 600 Kwacker down as 'good' and the NTV 600 Honda Revere (shaft drive, water cooled etc) thing as 'ugly' then one of our prides and joys, the Yamaha XJ600 Diversion, gets a conflated write-up as the 'bad'.

BOO say us !

But, interesting to see what they say:

QUOTE -
If you’ve ever owned a Diversion 600 you already know that they’re great transport but if you want excitement the 'Divvy' (as they are known) isn’t where it’s at. The Suzuki Bandit 600 was the benchmark middleweight and the XJ600N would forever live in the it's shadow. The build quality was pretty decent in some areas but less so in others. Exhaust systems rotted out fairly sharpish and the shock and brake calipers also lead short lives. Many bikes have been broken for parts over the years but still there’s a shortage of decent used consumables to keep the remaining Diversions alive. When a value of motorcycle dips to around a grand many people choose not to invest in new parts like exhausts and shocks, this sends a few more to an early grave. This is probably one of the best Diversion 600s that’s left, with only 10,000 miles covered there’s plenty of life left in this Yamaha and even better it’s fitted with a full stainless 4 into 1 exhaust system.

Anorak Facts

Un-faired examples are more popular than faired ones. It’s easy to work out why!
END of QUOTE

I sat on quite a few other bikes before settling on a Divvy. What struck me was how small or uncomfortable the others were. This does not hit you until you sit astride the things. I saw one pic for example in Autotrader Bikes or whatever, of a faired Bandit 600 in red. Now this pic made the bike look massive. I don't know quite how, but when I saw the real machine, I thought it got shrunk.

Reminded me of those real estate pictures - like flats in London or apartments in San Francisco, that look like they have masses of space, then you see the place close-up and boy does disappointment and reality bite your arse! :(

So, when I slung a leg over the Divvie six, I had already done so in a showroom on an old used bike, and knew it would fit my inside leg etc and unlike the eliminator 750 I had (shared GPz750/900 motor but had shaft drive and reduced gearing to drag-strip) did not give me leg cramp on a distance.

The XJ range in general is boringly reliable - when you get it fixed, it stays fixed, bar those front calipers corroding perhaps, that's the only maintenance chore really, IMHO. You all know this.

Any other external views? There's that well-known MCN review calling the Divvie the vauxhall diesel Astra of the bike world (a compact GM car made in Europe). If you are satisfied the bike enables you to participate in riding to the extent you want to, then I guess slights really don't hit too hard.
Current bike year 2000 Yamaha XJ600N also called Seca II or Diversion 600. On an older bike air cooling is a blessing, no sludge and complexity of badly-maintained liquid cooling. Other bikes were: BMW K100 roadster; Honda VF750S Sabre with anti-dive.

User avatar
TonyKZ1
XJ Enthusiast
XJ Enthusiast
Posts: 853
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:15 pm
Region or State: Missouri, U.S.A.
Motorcycles Owned Currently: 1997 Yamaha XJ600s Seca II
Location: Marble Hill, MO. U.S.A.
United States of America

Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:45 pm

Yeah, I've seen some of those blogs, websites, and opinion articles on how bad or boring the XJ600s Seca II/Diversion is. IMHO it's what I need and works fine for me. It's not a liquid cooled, high performance sport bike with all that associated maintenance and expense. Tires are cheap, at least when compared to newer bike's wider radial tires. I've had an old liquid cooled bike, it's not fun fixing the p.o.'s cooling system neglect. The air cooling is so much simpler. Maybe this (and the fact that the latest ones are almost 20yrs old) will keep the theft rate down since it's not a hugely popular bike?
1997 Yamaha Seca II - mostly stock, Racetech upgraded forks, FZ6R rear shock, Oxford Adventure Style Heated Grips, Barkbusters Blizzard Cold Weather Handguards, a Scottoiler vSystem chain oiler. My Mileage Tracker Page.

User avatar
Siper2
XJ Enthusiast
XJ Enthusiast
Posts: 497
Joined: Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:23 pm
Region or State: Pennsylvania
Motorcycles Owned Currently: 1994 Yamaha XJ600SF

Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:43 pm

The XJ600 is quite nice for me, no it's not going to win much admiration but as a value proposition and all-around good, utilitarian bike, it's a win. It's not intimidating, it's got enough power when you need it, it handles itself just fine. Not everyone has the budget for what they want, and/or they just want an "easy" every day bike. In my opinion, the Seca II / XJ600 fits that mold nicely.

It's given me appreciation for standard-style bikes, and my next one will likely be a standard or at least a laid-back sportbike. I really like the new Honda CB1100, though if I had the budget I'd be all over a BMW R1200R, RS, or RnineT. :thumbsup:

I agree with your comment on apartments/flats or houses. Usually the shots are done with a wide-angle lens! So you've got to know what you're looking for in photography, to be prepared for what you'll see when you actually get there. :)

User avatar
Oddball
New to XJR
New to XJR
Posts: 8
Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:26 pm
Region or State: California
Motorcycles Owned Currently: 1996 Yamaha XJ600 (Seca II)

Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:10 pm

I snagged a bargain Honda ST1100 "Pan European" a few years ago, mostly because I needed a longer-legged ride to keep up with my Harley-riding buddies. (i'm never going to own an HD, but I wanted to keep up...) Once that was restored to riding condition, I thought I would sell the Seca 2. But as it turns out, when I open the garage door intending to head out for just a fun ride, I almost always choose the Deuce. It's just easier, lighter, and ultimately more fun than the big bike for day rides. I also think the curves and proportions - and even the wheels - of the faired version (my '96 even had the chin fairing) are the prettiest of almost any bike. I even half-jokingly refer to her as 'Sophia' after Ms. Vergara, for those lovely curves and her sleek black paint. Ergonomically, the bike fits me perfectly and I'm old enough now that going really fast no longer matters, so I don't.

User avatar
TonyKZ1
XJ Enthusiast
XJ Enthusiast
Posts: 853
Joined: Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:15 pm
Region or State: Missouri, U.S.A.
Motorcycles Owned Currently: 1997 Yamaha XJ600s Seca II
Location: Marble Hill, MO. U.S.A.
United States of America

Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:24 pm

Wow, that view point and the curves sound great.
1997 Yamaha Seca II - mostly stock, Racetech upgraded forks, FZ6R rear shock, Oxford Adventure Style Heated Grips, Barkbusters Blizzard Cold Weather Handguards, a Scottoiler vSystem chain oiler. My Mileage Tracker Page.

Post Reply

Navigation:

  Search

  New Posts

  Unread Posts

  The Wall

  Gallery

  About Us


Call to Action:

  Forum Images

  Ride Relay


Cool Projects:

Predrag's Resto

Renegade's 93