Will the XJ600S Diversion/Seca 2 be a classic bike?

General discussion for the XJ600, Seca II and Diversion.
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Re: Will the XJ600S Diversion/Seca 2 be a classic bike?

Post by sleekitwan » Fri May 19, 2017 7:55 am

The basic machine was the same fundamental design for an uncommonly long time. So, point 1. Staying power.

The design of the seca 2 or diversion 600 or indeed the shaft drive 900, had some novel features despite Yamaha using as many bits from the parts bin as it could.

Hence we have the great idea of the tucked-ip generator, cpmpared to kwacker fours of the time, making the engine narrow for a multi. So a notable design feature or two is point 2. We could toss in those tangled header pipes. That is a work pf art, come on!

A very big point too, is how damn well known they are both sides of the atlantic and asia.

Therefore I submit point 3 being that awareness factor. As much as a guy knpws what an E-type Jaguar looks like, most bikers know a Seca 2, XJ or Diversion.

Either they had one or they doscounted it when surveying the market looking for the middleweight they'd move up to (or like me in my fifties, move down to for ease and econpmy).

I almost did not get 'Rosie' and despite having to overcome Yamaha's turn of century messed up leaned out carburettion, that was such a good decision.

It's a classic, with no shadow of a doubt, for the above reasons and more. S&@t, you could do a thesis on it. Gawd, my dream doctorate...
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Re: Will the XJ600S Diversion/Seca 2 be a classic bike?

Post by sleekitwan » Fri May 19, 2017 8:03 am

Heck, novel design features - forgot the slanted cylinder block and downdraft carbs, and that artwork of a rocker box cover, all curves and some kind of 'blade' design going on, giving access to spark plugs.

I fitted iridium, so have not even checked them for 2 years, this reminds me. Best mod to any standard petrol (gas) engine, to cut maintenace and unreliability in half.

I fell the itch to write that thesis coming on!
Current bike year 2000 Yamaha XJ600N also called Seca II or Diversion 600. On an older bike air cooling is a blessing, no sludge and complexity of badly-maintained liquid cooling. Other bikes were: BMW K100 roadster; Honda VF750R with anti-dive.

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Re: Will the XJ600S Diversion/Seca 2 be a classic bike?

Post by TonyKZ1 » Fri May 19, 2017 10:23 am

Wow, nice write up! Keep it coming.
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Re: Will the XJ600S Diversion/Seca 2 be a classic bike?

Post by radare » Fri May 19, 2017 10:32 am

sleekitwan wrote:
Fri May 19, 2017 7:55 am
Therefore I submit point 3 being that awareness factor. As much as a guy knows what an E-type Jaguar looks like, most bikers know a Seca 2, XJ or Diversion.

Either they had one or they discounted it when surveying the market looking for the middleweight they'd move up to (or like me in my fifties, move down to for ease and economy).
I think, one thing to consider is, we had way-fewer XJ's in the United States than you all have in Europe and they just do not seem to have the same awareness here in the US. Our motorcycle culture is different, too, given that we don't do staged or experienced based licensing. Your typical new rider (making a lot of stereotypical assumptions) is likely to go with a more aggressive bike like the SV650 or even the R series or GSXR bikes than an old carbureted 90's bike and I think this is really tied to image and not practicality.

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Re: Will the XJ600S Diversion/Seca 2 be a classic bike?

Post by Ollyrag » Fri May 19, 2017 2:21 pm

I just like the look of the N model, but then I also like old stuff, the plastic fantastic bikes aint for me.
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Re: Will the XJ600S Diversion/Seca 2 be a classic bike?

Post by johnny ro » Fri May 26, 2017 6:07 pm

I bought my clean low mile 1994 last week, as a classic.

So, to me it is already a classic.

Shopped it against an XT1200, CB500X and Versys-x 300.

Bought the XJ cause it was cheaper; no-pain money. By very far, the prettiest. Admit to self, won't be riding off road any time soon. There is no off-road near Boston.

Its not my only bike.

Cannot imagine getting bored and selling it for almost no money.

Will it rise in value? not for decades, if ever. Will I lose money on it? Not much to lose.

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