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powerismine
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Hello - New Rider - New to me Bike

Post by powerismine » Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:36 am

Good afternoon everyone,

My name is Rich (hi Rich!), how is everyone today? I am doing well. I am new to motorcycles and riding. I was always a 4 wheel guy between off roading, atv's and go karts. I own an electronics repair shop out here in WNY, we are outside of Buffalo in the sticks. I have been into computers and electronics since about 1999, but have always been someone who takes things apart just to see how they work. I also love to camp, fish and general outdoors. I picked up a larger fishing boat last year and am hoping to get it out on the lake this year for fall fishing season. I am a cancer survivor (well so far! :D), last year I found out I had final stage cancer but was able to beat it after nasty chemo and a few surgeries.

This is my first bike, 1994 Yamaha (obv) XJ600 Seca II. I got it from Facebook Marketplace. The person I got it from had it for 2 years but never put it on the road. He used around the back roads and lost interest. He had other bikes and projects. Anyway he described it as not getting fuel and he said he figured the fuel pump was bad, it does run great with starting fluid. After reading up on this issue this morning a little bit I am not sure that is the case. I plan on going over everything during this week and going from there.

Few things I do need to figure out and maybe you all can point me in the right direction.

1. Grips - Are they somewhat universal? They need replaced since they are covered in electrical tape now.
2. Seat Cover - Seat is in okay shape but it needs recovered. Do they sell a cover for it or am I better off having a place just redo it?
3. Fuel Issue - I am going to start troubleshooting this during the week. I want to get it running before I put it on the road.
4. Paint Removal - So the person who had the bike before me decided to paint it, well that would be all well and good if they would have done it even partly right. They painted OVER everything, decals, pin strips, everything. It's crazy how lazy this person was, that said what is the best way to remove the paint and get the plastics ready for painting?
5. Front End Light - I am not a fan of how the stock front light (not sure what it's called). I seen a few others that have a nicer round head light and the plastics have been removed, might go down this road.

I am sure I will have a TON more questions as time goes on. I did see there was a recent post regarding fuel pumps in the forum and I plan on digging into that more as I play around. If anyone has any suggestions please feel free to PM on here or hunt me down on Facebook.

Thanks everyone, it is very nice to meet all of you and hopefully I will be another success story!

Rich
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Re: Hello - New Rider - New to me Bike

Post by radare » Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:44 am

Hi, Rich!

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Re: Hello - New Rider - New to me Bike

Post by TonyKZ1 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:09 am

Hello and welcome to the site!
1997 Yamaha Seca II - mostly stock, Racetech upgraded forks, FZ6R rear shock, Oxford Sports Style Heated Grips, Barkbusters Blizzard Cold Weather Handguards, a Scottoiler vSystem chain oiler. My Mileage Tracker Page.

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Re: Hello - New Rider - New to me Bike

Post by powerismine » Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:11 am

Thanks all. I am looking forward to getting to know all of you better and even more looking forward to getting on the road!
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Re: Hello - New Rider - New to me Bike

Post by JustinC25 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:57 pm

Hi Rich !
I just bought a 94 XJ600S too. 😁

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Re: Hello - New Rider - New to me Bike

Post by XJLiverpool » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:32 am

Hi Rich, I'm in work at the moment so I'll be able to reply later tonight to some of your questions unless someone else can beat me too it :)

Oh and Welcome :)

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Re: Hello - New Rider - New to me Bike

Post by Crimson » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:59 am

Hi Rich!
powerismine wrote:
Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:36 am
1. Grips - Are they somewhat universal? They need replaced since they are covered in electrical tape now.
The handlebar diameter is a universal 7/8" size. So you can use standard grips, but make sure they are of sufficient length.
The replacement ones I bought were Honda-style, shorter grips. So I had to shorten my throttle sheath to make them fit:

https://crimsonxj.wordpress.com/2017/07 ... er-fitted/
2. Seat Cover - Seat is in okay shape but it needs recovered. Do they sell a cover for it or am I better off having a place just redo it?
You can buy a cover for it, but, personally, I would keep that money aside for regular maintenance items (tyres, chains, etc.) I replaced my own with a sheet of vinyl material, but this is a tricky seat contour and you should be prepared to be patient if you're going to give it a try:

https://crimsonxj.wordpress.com/2017/05 ... e-covered/
3. Fuel Issue - I am going to start troubleshooting this during the week. I want to get it running before I put it on the road.
You'll figure that out, I'm sure. If it's just the fuel pump then it's a replace or fix.
4. Paint Removal - So the person who had the bike before me decided to paint it, well that would be all well and good if they would have done it even partly right. They painted OVER everything, decals, pin strips, everything. It's crazy how lazy this person was, that said what is the best way to remove the paint and get the plastics ready for painting?
Hehehe... A lot of wet-and-dry, some white spirit, and lots of elbow-grease, I guess. Prep is everything when it comes to painting. You need an absolutely smooth surface before you even start. I had a lot of trouble removing my decals, and I had a powerful heat gun and WD-40. Yamaha lacquered right over the decals, so, on metal parts, it's a fairly thick layer of petrol-resistant lacquer, then the decals, then a super-thin layer of colour paint.
5. Front End Light - I am not a fan of how the stock front light (not sure what it's called). I seen a few others that have a nicer round head light and the plastics have been removed, might go down this road.
It's a rectangular headlight, it protrudes a lot from the bike, and it's surrounded by a large, heavy steel framework that bolts into the fairing. With the fairing removed, the clocks look ugly and are set too far forward. If you want to do a naked conversion you will need:

1) New headlight and indicators.
2) Headlight mounting brackets to attach to forks.
3) New clocks.
4) Angle grinder to cut away a lot of useless junk that only exists to keep the fairing attached and secure, and the headlight forward.
A record of maintenance items carried out on my bike:
https://crimsonxj.wordpress.com/

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Re: Hello - New Rider - New to me Bike

Post by powerismine » Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:42 am

Wow awesome answers!! Thanks much, I didn't get a chance to mess with it last night do to Minecraft and a 7 year old lol. I am going to try and sneak out of work a little early today and get to troubleshooting. I will post up the results once I do what I was told to do via FB:

"Take the line off of the pump from the petcock and turn the petcock to prime. Fuel should come out. If not, line clog, petcock clog or tank is clogged. Take the fuel line off the carbs and turn the bike over. Fuel should come out, if so pump is okay. If not get a new pump. Make sure the vacuum hose is attached to the intake runners and petcock and pump."

As long as this sounds like the right way to troubleshoot that pump.

Thanks again for the awesome answers and for being so welcoming. Hopefully this time next week I will be on the road. Painting I think I am going to do over the winter time. I have a friend that does autobody and he said he could give me a hand over this winter to get it all prettied up before spring. I am thinking of doing straight black and also doing the headlight conversion.

Thanks again and I will post up my results once I have them.
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Re: Hello - New Rider - New to me Bike

Post by Crimson » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:59 am

powerismine wrote:
Tue Aug 08, 2017 8:42 am
"Take the line off of the pump from the petcock and turn the petcock to prime. Fuel should come out. If not, line clog, petcock clog or tank is clogged. Take the fuel line off the carbs and turn the bike over. Fuel should come out, if so pump is okay. If not get a new pump. Make sure the vacuum hose is attached to the intake runners and petcock and pump."
This seems OK, but with one addition: if fuel doesn't come out from the petcock on prime, also check your breather hose is clear. This can be done by leaving the filler cap open. If fuel comes out when the filler cap is open, then stops soon after it's closed, you have a breather hose problem.
A record of maintenance items carried out on my bike:
https://crimsonxj.wordpress.com/

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Re: Hello - New Rider - New to me Bike

Post by mikee112 » Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:17 pm

Hi Rich, Welcome to XJR :)

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