My bike won't start

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Vulcano39
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Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:00 pm

Good evening....
This is what happened...i went to work normally and parked my bike outside. During the day it rained a lot, i left my job and when i pushed the start button it failed a bit (no signal in the start motor) but then started normally. When i got home i parked my bike and made a rear brake pads change (normal). When i tried to start the engine to go for a ride, nothing. The starter motor dead...no signal.

things i've done: i checked the cables and the start button for any dirt and applied some WD40 to remove any water
i checked the fuses
i hammered the start motor still nothing
i checked the battery and it was alright

I can hear the rele when i turn on and off the red button but when i push the starter nothing...

anyone have any ideas? :idea: :?:
Bikes owned:
Famel Foguete (1958) 50cc 1990
Famel 77 50cc (????)1991-1992
Moto Guzzi NTX 750 (1989)1997-1999
Yamaha XJ600S Diversion (1994) 2017-who knows...
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Ollyrag
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Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:42 am

Check the Blue/White wire at the relay, also check it where it goes into the harness, there is a joint in there that fails.
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Vulcano39
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Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:47 am

tks...i will

best regards
Bikes owned:
Famel Foguete (1958) 50cc 1990
Famel 77 50cc (????)1991-1992
Moto Guzzi NTX 750 (1989)1997-1999
Yamaha XJ600S Diversion (1994) 2017-who knows...
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Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:01 am

Forgot to mention the obvious, side stand up and in neutral :-)
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Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:30 pm

yes, already in center stand and neutral. i am also going to disconnect those switchs. best regards
Bikes owned:
Famel Foguete (1958) 50cc 1990
Famel 77 50cc (????)1991-1992
Moto Guzzi NTX 750 (1989)1997-1999
Yamaha XJ600S Diversion (1994) 2017-who knows...
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Vulcano39
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Region:: Setubal
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Location: Corroios, Qta. da Marialva
Portugal

Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:16 am

One week later i found the problem....Image
one broken wire (blue and white) in the wireharness side coupler. I made a temporay soldering and add some silicone to hold the wire steady, but i will buy a new cable and will store the damage one for emergency replacement. My bike is starting fine now.

many tks
Bikes owned:
Famel Foguete (1958) 50cc 1990
Famel 77 50cc (????)1991-1992
Moto Guzzi NTX 750 (1989)1997-1999
Yamaha XJ600S Diversion (1994) 2017-who knows...
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Sun Dec 17, 2017 3:52 am

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Vulcano39
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Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:21 am

yup...i didn't see it first, because it was inside the coupler, i was already giving up when during the assembly to take the bike to the repairshop i saw the wire dandling in the middle of the other wires, tks for help Ollyrag. Merry christmas
Bikes owned:
Famel Foguete (1958) 50cc 1990
Famel 77 50cc (????)1991-1992
Moto Guzzi NTX 750 (1989)1997-1999
Yamaha XJ600S Diversion (1994) 2017-who knows...
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