Electronic tachometer (DSP SYS)

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Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:15 pm

Hi,

I'm trying to wire an electronic speedometer bought on Amazon (brand : DSP SYS ?) :

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Did anyone here have the same? I dig into the forum but didn't find anything apart an old post without any wiring information.
Also watched some youtube videos but didn't find the solution

My problem is with the tachometer, the others indicators are quite easy to wire. So if you can help me it would be great!
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Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:59 am

Typically aftermarket tachometers use a signal from either wrapping a spark plug wire or splicing into one of the wires going to the coil pack.

The directions should list which one it is, but I do not remember anyone else using that specific gauge at the moment.
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Wed Oct 25, 2017 3:19 pm

The directions are really brief.

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The wire on the tachometer for the RPM must be the yellow/black. I already tried to connect it to the ignition unit, as that was the wiring with the original tachometer, and that was also a yellow/black wire (just to say i have a xj 600 from 97, it will be important for wire color) but got no activity on the tacho.

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After reading and watching quite a lot of things on that tacho i think you're right with the wire going to the coil.
I would test that but i'm afraid to broke something if the voltage there is too high. And which wire?

There is maybe an alternative that worked on a FZS600 Fazer :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uc0HANdYbFI

here is the diagram of the solution :
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it uses a resistance of 100K ohm 0.5 W and a capacitor of 10 nF 630V

But what is the CDI? Which wire on the diagram of the XJ?
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:36 am

The signal wires to the coils (12 to 13, Gray or Orange) if you wanted to connect directly into the system or inductance through the sleeving for the spark plug wires (13 to 16).

I believe number 12 is the black box under the seat. The tach signal to the gauges (12 to 19) shouldn't be a pulse signal if I remember right, it should already be transformed to a usable voltage signal for the tach motor.
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 11:08 am

Yes the 12 is the CDI and it's under the seat near the fuses, so i tryed with Orange and Grey and get nothing.
Also tried to wrap one wire around a spark plug but get nothing too.
I should have tried to plug between 13 and 16 but i failed as i blew a fuse while testing with my voltmeter :oops:
The bike is not at home so i'll try that next week. I'll also buy a resitor and capacitor to try the other method.

Thanks for the help
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Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:18 pm

Ok so the solution with the capacitor and the resistor gave nothing too, i'll try tomorrow to get the frequency that is on the CDI wire.
Like that maybe i can find the solution.
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Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:42 pm

Last update, i finally tried every wire from the CDI and i got a signal with the white/red one.
This one goes to the pick-up coil as described on the wiring diagram :

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It's still not perfect, it displays 4 times the value of the real RPM

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So does any of you know a little of electronic to convert the signal, to divide the value by 4 ?
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Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:26 am

The orange and grey signals are sine waves generated by the CDI box to trigger spark. Only a yamaha 4-cylinder tach will work with that signal unless you manage to find one with the same frequency as the Yamaha signal. I have it written somewhere, 2k something-or-other, a search should find it. Is that new tachometer inductive?

The tachometer signal, btw, is a combination of the grey, brown and black wire. As I recall, grey is signal, brown is 12V+ and black is ground.
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Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:08 pm

div wrote:
Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:42 pm
Last update, i finally tried every wire from the CDI and i got a signal with the white/red one.
This one goes to the pick-up coil as described on the wiring diagram :

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It's still not perfect, it displays 4 times the value of the real RPM

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So does any of you know a little of electronic to convert the signal, to divide the value by 4 ?

I know this is an old thread, but in light of the question
div wrote:
Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:42 pm
So does any of you know a little of electronic to convert the signal, to divide the value by 4 ?
this gauge has the options of Fitment for: 1/2/4 cylinders motorcycles, Dirt Bike, ATV,Scooter, boat and marine etc. i believe if you set this to operate on 1 cylinder rather than 4 (since pick up is only from 1 coil) the reading should be correct.

this is not tested just me thinking aloud..
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