Longer side stand

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Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:49 am

Hello all.

I'm on the lookout for a longer side stand to match my raised rear end (Kawasaki Ninja 650/ER-6 shock). I've been looking for the one Detonation used on his bike, but without any luck.

I did however notice, that the Pre Diversion seca has a side stand that maybe could work.
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So I'm asking for any kind soul who could measure the length of the old XJ's side stand and one who could measure the Diversions side stand (my own is still stored away for the winter, so I can't measure it myself).

Or
1. If anyone knows of a safe way to add just over 1" (roughly 3cm) to the original side stand, as in welding a box on the bottom/cut in half and add material etc.
2. Anyone knows of a longer side stand that will bolt on and add that 1"
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Mon Mar 04, 2013 11:04 pm

NelsonMD was in the same predicament after he upgraded to the VStar shock. He suggested welding footies to the bottom. I originally thought about cutting it in half and adding material in the middle but if the weld gives way, the bike will fall. So it might be best to go his route.

i have a 95 XJ600S and from the pivot point to ground is ~ 9 inches.

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Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:16 am

Yeah, thought about it. Can't quite figure out what to weld to the bottom that will hold.
I'm even considering the "hockey puch" solution, although it's not really pretty :)

Thanks for the measurement
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Tue Mar 05, 2013 12:35 pm

Diversion 230mm from bottom to center of bolt hole.

The one I have 260mm from bottom to center of bolt hole.
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Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:12 pm

This is a bit low-brow, but when I was contemplating lengthening my side stand, I'd planned to weld a cheap (Chinese made) socket to the bottom of my sidestand. Cheap and simple. A coat of black paint and I doubt anyone would ever notice.

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Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:46 pm

I've thought about taking very large spanner and bending the end of it then welding the other end to a bolt head, but just don't have the equipment at the moment, want to do it all in stainless.
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Tue Mar 05, 2013 1:48 pm

Just if you could find someone that stocked these!

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http://kwakakev.wordpress.com/preperation/
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Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:42 am

Brilliant guys, thanks for the answers. The easiest and safest would be to find a longer one that bolts right on, so that's what I'm looking for at the moment. If not, then the socket idea is pretty good :)

I've asked different sellers about various side stand lenghts, I'll make a list when I get all my replies from them.
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Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:54 am

Update:

I recently bought, and mounted, a side stand from a Yamaha FZ600.

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It is 30cm long (seems just perfect for the 650R/ER6 shock, maybe it has a bit more angle to it), and besides the little tap on the top of the stand it was a simple straight swap. Also, unlike the first side stand I posted (from the Pre-diversion XJ), this has spring mount attached on the right side and height so I even used the original spring and bolt hardware.
(If you have the original exhausts on, it will hit on the bottom)

Nevertheless, here's a list of different side stand lengths according to various ebay sellers

Yamaha XJ 600 Diversion: 230 mm
Yamaha XJ 600 Pre-diversion: 270 mm (spring mount on the wrong side)
Yamaha FZ 600: 300 mm
Yamaha FZR 600: 230 mm
Yamaha FZR 1000: 230 mm (1989-1995 models at least)
Kawasaki GPZ 750: 260 mm
Yamaha TZR 125: 230 mm
Detonation mystery stand: 260 mm
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Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:57 am

Kanten wrote:Update:

I recently bought, and mounted, a side stand from a Yamaha FZ600.

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It is 30cm long (seems just perfect for the 650R/ER6 shock, maybe it has a bit more angle to it), and besides the little tap on the top of the stand it was a simple straight swap. Also, unlike the first side stand I posted (from the Pre-diversion XJ), this has spring mount attached on the right side and height so I even used the original spring and bolt hardware.
(If you have the original exhausts on, it will hit on the bottom)

Nevertheless, here's a list of different side stand lengths according to various ebay sellers

Yamaha XJ 600 Diversion: 230 mm
Yamaha XJ 600 Pre-diversion: 270 mm (spring mount on the wrong side)
Yamaha FZ 600: 300 mm
Yamaha FZR 600: 230 mm
Yamaha FZR 1000: 230 mm (1989-1995 models at least)
Kawasaki GPZ 750: 260 mm
Yamaha TZR 125: 230 mm
Detonation mystery stand: 260 mm
Good find! I'm going to snag it and put it on The Wall for future reference. :clap:

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