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Vulcano39
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Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:58 am

Slartibartfast wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2017 8:15 am
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Slartibartfast wrote:
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All I need to do now is wait for the wife to go out so I can fire the bits through the dishwasher....
Not sure if joking... but don't think that's a good idea. It's a pain to try and get that grease and grime out of the dishwasher. I have a friend that used his for a parts cleaner once, he has since replaced it due to this usage.
Hahahaha as much as anything it's to annoy the wife 😂 I've used it a couple of times but to be fair I've got the vast majority of the grease off things by then.

You can just about fit a wheel in one 👍

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I have to share this photo...very nice.....lololol
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Wed Dec 20, 2017 11:18 am

:x :x :x :x
Started rebuilding my calipers at work today.

Rear caliper reassembled like a dream. So I started on the front left caliper. I had left the bleed nipples in to make sure no paint got in the thread, so first things first, remove the manky old bleed nipples as I have lovely shiny new ones.

Guess what happens next??

Yup.

Sheared. Below the top of the caliper.

:x

First stop was an easy-out (an extractor bit) - no luck what so ever. So I carefully drilled it out, and retapped with an M7x1.00 tap. This wasn't a huge success either, as it stripped itself.

So I managed to grab an M8x1.25 bleed nipple, and tomorrow at work I will attempt to drill and tap for the caliper to take this size of bleed nipple, as I don't really want to have to fork out for a new caliper.

Has anyone else done this?
EIF wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:39 pm
"Yeah, the tank is making the house smell like a pickle factory and the signals have a sense of humor. Plus there was a handful of dogfood in the airbox."
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Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:33 am

Well, it turns out that the M8x1.25 bleed nipple is actually an M7x1.00, which is the same as the original bleed nipple.

On my (front left) caliper, the original bleed nipple can be dropped almost into the bottom of the hole - not good.

A tapping drill for an M8 is 6.8mm - I reckon the hole was somewhere in the region of 7mm anyway. As the original fitting didnt work, I took the decision to tap out to M8x1.25 anyway, which appears to have been successful. Although I won't know for definite until I get a nipple of the correct thread to test fit
EIF wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:39 pm
"Yeah, the tank is making the house smell like a pickle factory and the signals have a sense of humor. Plus there was a handful of dogfood in the airbox."
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Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:15 am

Just an idea, bit easier maybe.
Put a short m8 with a copper washer in, then a banjo bolt with a nipple.......
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Sat Dec 23, 2017 2:05 am

Ollyrag wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:15 am
Just an idea, bit easier maybe.
Put a short m8 with a copper washer in, then a banjo bolt with a nipple.......
Just googled that Olly, I didn't even know that they existed!

Thats a definite back up plan mate, cheers.

For anyone else that hasn't seen them, Wemoto stock these - there are other thread options so this might not be the exact one, but you get the idea!
EIF wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:39 pm
"Yeah, the tank is making the house smell like a pickle factory and the signals have a sense of humor. Plus there was a handful of dogfood in the airbox."
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Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:25 pm

I don’t think these photos are going to be very good (especially the last one as I was in a rush to go do Other Stuff) but I picked up my swing arm from the powder coaters.

Here it is before - note corrosion and heavy scratching up the one side
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Here it is after 😊😊
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Finish is fantastic, and it only cost £30. New roller bearings are in the post.

Once the swingarm is on, I can fit the original wheel - I can’t jack the front wheel off the floor without it! Rather than pivoting back on the centrestand, it’s just picking the whole bike up.

Then I can get the front wheel and FZR rear wheel for powder coating.

All I will need then is new tyres and an MOT!
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EIF wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:39 pm
"Yeah, the tank is making the house smell like a pickle factory and the signals have a sense of humor. Plus there was a handful of dogfood in the airbox."
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Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:05 pm

#sadface

Today has been a learning day. The lesson is this:

Don’t tap out a stripped M7 bleed nipple to M8x1.25. The caliper body isn’t man enough for it.
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This is what happens.

I’ll now be looking for a replacement caliper.

😡
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EIF wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:39 pm
"Yeah, the tank is making the house smell like a pickle factory and the signals have a sense of humor. Plus there was a handful of dogfood in the airbox."
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Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:18 pm

That's rough. Good lesson to know now instead of when you need them the most.
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Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:31 pm

I have a question; I'm looking on ebay at the moment (will check other breakers too). I thought that the caliper shown was the left hand (speedo drive) caliper. Looking at the photos of calipers on ebay it would seem this is the right hand side caliper and I have somehow mixed them up whilst taking them off. Not sure how, as I was quite careful as I took everything off, even wrote on the clear bags I put all the parts in.

Can anyone confirm for me which side of the bike I took this off?
EIF wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:39 pm
"Yeah, the tank is making the house smell like a pickle factory and the signals have a sense of humor. Plus there was a handful of dogfood in the airbox."
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Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:52 am

That is a right hand caliper
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